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“When the witness is digging himself a hole, keep the shovel in his hands”

Killer Cross Examination Snippet from P v Morrow

“When the witness is digging himself a hole, keep the shovel in his hands”

Killer-Cross-Examination

The informant took the stand to attempt to finish his “work” for the Straits Area Narcotics Enforcement (SANE) drug team. He thought he’d be cagey and try to argue with me as I cross examined him. Ask those in the attendance whether his caginess or attempt to “talk back to me” worked. I suggest that most in attendance realized that he was only digging himself a deeper a hole.  I kept the shovel in his hands.  

Here is a summary of just one portion of the killer cross examination of this informant-witness:

 Q:        You would lie to get yourself out of trouble?

 A:         No.

 Q:        You’ve admitted as much under oath in the past, right?

A:         No.

Q:        You testified in oath in {this other case}?

 A:         Yes.

Q:        Weren’t you asked this question, “You would like to get yourself out of trouble?” and your answer was, “Yes.”

A:         Yes.

Q:        So you lied earlier today?

A:         No.

Q:        You denied that you’d lie to help yourself get out of trouble and you denied that you said that under oath earlier.   Those were lies, right?

A:         Yes, I guess.

Q:        There’s not much to guesswork in that is there?

A:         I don’t know what you mean.

A killer cross examination can expose the witness’s willingness to lie but also by addressing each aspect of the lie, e.g., in the past, in the present, etc., reveals the witnesses willingness to continually lie even in court.  When a witness is digging himself a hole, make sure that you keep the shovel in his hands and get him to keep digging. 

(This is a summary of an excerpt of one portion of the cross examination of the informant.   It is not meant to state that this is an identical transcript or verbatim copy of the transcript.)

Stay tuned from more revelations from the cross examination of the informant in the Morrow case as well as cross examinations of the officer in charge – those too proved to be quite revealing.

 

Twisting Them Up

Once in a while, if the cross examine is persistent enough, a witness just loses his cool.  The witness, pressed for information by a dogged cross examiner, becomes impatient and reveals that he is just not believable by answering a question defiantly and nonsensically.   A killer cross examination can reveal a witness to be unhinged and unreliable.

In this case, a police officer was trying to fence and parry with me as I cross examined him.  He was cagey, as thought he was trying to think too much about what the answers meant rather than just answer the questions.  After hearing him testify that he called a uniformed officer to the scene for a “police presence”, I pressed him on the true meaning of that concept.  I was trying to establish that my client was not free to leave and the police presence rendered him detained.   Read along and watch for the officer losing it, i.e, becoming unhinged and offering up testimony that was defiant, blubber and nonsense.

Cop - Twisted Police Authority 1

Cross- Police Authority Twisted 2

Cross Police Authority Twisted 3

Cross Police Authority Twisted 5

The killer cross examination trapped the officer into the image of a “police presence” and after it was too late, he tried to argue, obfuscate and talk his way out of it.  His answer to the strong police presence question was argumentative, meandering, rubbish, blubbering and nonsensical.  It reads like he was babbling and it was only worse in person.  He should have conceded the point but didn’t want to give us something valuable and helpful to our case.

This is an effective part of a cross examination — force the witness into a compromising position and force him to either concede the point with helpful testimony or testify as this officer did — nonsensically.   This officer chose to argue further undermining his credibility.

Stay tuned for more killer cross examination segments as we have a whole new batch of transcripts to discuss and talk about.